Dealers – are you selling or hustling? – Part 2

The car business can be a funny one. Where else do so many people purposely create detractors? And is it really the salesperson’s fault? After all, they’re paid on actual sales, not to be information-givers. On weekends, they may even get an extra $10 bonus just for appointments that show. But we call them weak when they can’t switch someone.

In my last post I discussed the dangers of hustling clients. Here are some real life examples of this preaching in practice:When they were green peas, they heard countless stories from sales guys bragging about how they lied to someone just to get them in the door and made a pounder. Say I walked up to that discussion and said I just gave a customer a list of dealers that had the car in stock, because no one that has the car would trade with us. Most of them would step back, give me a funny look, and throw me under the bus within the hour. Or, they might say to the green pea after I’m gone, “Next time you have a jack, turn them to that guy.”

Here’s a case in point.

On Saturday, a salesman dropped two shoppers off at my desk and told me they just want numbers. The shoppers told me this was the first place they’d stopped, and they wouldn’t feel comfortable buying until they’d visited a few dealerships.

Hustler Move: “Well, get your best number and bring it back to me.”

My reaction: “I’d be happy to give you more information.”

When I worked up the lease, they asked me to print off the sheet with the calculation. Not only did I do that, I showed them how to read it. I also printed up a lease structure for each CR-V trim level they were interested in. Lastly, I walked them outside so I could go over the specific differences while they had printouts in-hand. Then, they left.

Two hours later, they pulled back in and apologized they couldn’t buy from me earlier. They said the other dealers hadn’t been as helpful or willing to give them information. Another hour later, they were pulling out in their new CR-V.

Did I win their business on price? Nope. Did I win their business by promising something I wasn’t sure I could follow through on? Nope. I won their business by being as helpful as possible. Something three other dealers couldn’t do.

Let me repeat.

Three dealers had customers in front of them, ready to buy a car. These customers had printouts in-hand that the dealers could’ve easily matched or beat, and all three missed the mark. They couldn’t match the level of helpfulness or clarity I provided. Those salesmen probably told their bosses, “They were jacks. They wanted our best number, and they were on their way to two other dealers.”

The “Hustler Move” is a function of fear, laziness, and hasty conclusions. Hustlers choose NOW regardless of the consequences for the future. Being a Hustler is a constant struggle. I’m not saying it’s easy to switch into a different sales mode or that acting in selflessness as a salesman makes a whole lot of sense at first. But once you do, selling more cars becomes a heck of a lot easier.

Especially if your competitors don’t see it that way.

  • Guitardad1959

    You can’t go to most,”USED CAR DEALERS,”!!!!@#%^*()(*^###,without having to pay “FULL BOOK PRICE”, with well over 100,000 miles on them.I had a niece who thought she did good by talking a dealer down from 14,500 to 9,500. The only thing wrong with those figures where; the truck had over 200,000 miles on it. I wouldn’t even pay that for a collector car with that many miles on it  

  • Guitardad1959

    You can’t go to most,”USED CAR DEALERS,”!!!!@#%^*()(*^###,without having to pay “FULL BOOK PRICE”, with well over 100,000 miles on them.I had a niece who thought she did good by talking a dealer down from 14,500 to 9,500. The only thing wrong with those figures where; the truck had over 200,000 miles on it. I wouldn’t even pay that for a collector car with that many miles on it  

    • BigDogBGR

      It depends on the vehicle. For example Chevy Tahoes with that many miles but loaded sell well even with 200k because they are reliable.  Your niece could’ve got a car with much lower miles on it. However maybe the one she got was what she wanted.  Most dealers can’t get away with pricing above KBB only to be at KBB when giving that much off.  Where I work I dont even think I have a car on the lot with that much mark-up.

  • Joanna

    I’m trying carwoo out for the first time. I posted my “wanted” car and it turns out it’s not available (due to the earthquake and tsunami in Japan). One of the dealers said he could get it in 2-3 days. I replied that I was very interested since I’d heard the car was not available. He ignored that comment and made a different offer on a used model (that matched my requirements but with too many miles for its age). Hustler Move all the way. He was trying to get me in to push a used car on me knowing full well he could not get his hands on the car I want. Carwoo saved me the hassle of dealing with him in person. Thanks.

    • BigDogBGR

      Nothing wrong with what he did as long as he was honest about not being able to get the car you really wanted.  I dont consider that a hustler move.  Hustler move is letting you he can, get you in the dealership then try to switch you.

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    Im try them out